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Tabletop (profile) wrote,
on 11-18-2003 at 6:26pm
Subject: As true today, as it was when it was written.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:34
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tuwang

11-18-03 9:08pm

Matthew 10:34 is jesus talking to the jews. He is reminding them that he is not going to save everyone. (the story is that the jews are completely ignorant to God, and they don't pay attention to him even though he continuously persecutes them and prophets come and tell them ahead of time, so you know the story and you don't just take this verse literally). In luke 12:51, in a different account of the same event, he says "Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division" this suggests that he is not going bring harm, but judge. I'm supposign that your using this verse to say that Christ is here to harm us and do damage, and is all bad, because of the way you take things literally and somewhere developed this idea that all organized religion is wrong, and that only your opinion matters. Atleast that's how it comes off. I don't like super conservatives who try to make you feel bad for not being as "perfect" as they are. I don't like people who take the bible literally, and don't even look into it. I don't like people who just go to church on sunday and don't think about it any where else in life and suppose that they are goign to be "saved". Just like you I don't like alot these things. Religions are different. I don't believe in the Devil or Hell, or Heaven immediatly following death. And I can back that all up scripturally. So show some respect and don't completely diss all religions because we are not all mindless zombies, and in doing so you insult me and I'm sure lot's of other people. It's fine to state your opinion , but do so with respect. I don't run around saying, "Man , those aetheist are fuckers".

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.j.e.s.s.

Re:, 11-18-03 9:22pm

I agree, not completely with every single last detail. But overall I deffinetely agree.

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Tabletop

Re:, 11-18-03 10:30pm

I'm not saying that he was going to hurt everyone, that was not my point at all. I'm just pointing out that while christians like to point out verses where he spouts pacifistic hippie nonsense (turn the other cheek, matthew 5:39), he actually said a lot more stuff like Luke 22:36- Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewish his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

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tuwang

Re: Re:, 11-19-03 3:45pm

christians do overdo it sometimes, I"m not christian. I'm christadelphian, It's practically a completely different thing. I'm just asking you to respect other peoples opinions about the topic and not act like we're dumb because we believe in God. P.S. God made the day and the night on the first day.

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PHIL-HIMSELF

Re: Re: Re:, 11-19-03 5:05pm

i'm a godless bastard

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tuwang

Re: Re:, 11-19-03 6:08pm

and by the way, jesus never had sex, listened to Jimi Hendrix, Or went on acid binges, therefore he is not a hippie. He is however a pacifist, but who said theres anything wrong other than your mind, who , if put in the situation, would probably attempt to get out of fighting a war anyway.

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tuwang

Re: Re:, 11-19-03 6:09pm

pussy bitch

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Tabletop

Re: Re: Re:, 11-19-03 9:26pm

yeah, day and night on the first day, and the sun on the fourth day.

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Tabletop

Re: Re: Re:, 11-19-03 9:28pm

he threw the money changers from the temple, a pacifist would have asked them politely to leave


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tuwang

Re: Re: Re: Re:, 11-19-03 9:36pm

hmmm, lets see here, hmmmm. I do believe you recently said in one of your comments that Jesus was a pacifist hippi? Is that.. .Oh yes, I do believe that is true that you did say that. So now you've suddenly changed your mind? OH wait, your a hypocrite, I forgot.

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Tabletop

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:, 11-20-03 7:36pm

I said that christians like to point out the verses in which he talks like a pacifist hippie, not that he was one. In fact, the entry was created just to show that he wasn't. He was a military messiah, fairly common in those times.

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