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mudpiegrl (profile) wrote,
on 4-16-2006 at 8:37pm
im going to rant about god. im going to lay it straight out: i believe god is an idea that humans created to explain exsistance. it's straightforward, i think. i have yet to have someone really full-out argue with me. i think we've reached a point in our culture that it's completely acceptable to "believe" in god, but still doubt the idea. outside of church anyway.
patrice and i were discussing fate. some people argue that god has control over everything and from the moment we're born, knows our mistakes and successes and the moment we'll die (q related this theory to playing the sims ::click:: write rant about god ::click::). however, there are other's who believe god only initiates life, which would be the domino effect; flick the first and watch the rest fall.
the thing that kinda gets to me is not the indecision among the human race, nor the insistant denial by those i've talked to (because, as i said, most agree), but the fact that someone can say...yea, i suppose i look at it the same way, but later, in the same sentance, can say...im going to church, but im probably going to burn when i walk in the door.
do you sense the confusion in this person's head? sadly, this happens a lot.
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Anonymous

04-17-06 10:03pm

the bible is the truth, and only truth. I do not like the way religion is protrayed... people should not have a "religion", people should have a personal relationship with God, and that is all that matters.

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Anonymous

Re:, 04-20-06 12:08am

Um, okay, that's your opinion, but your statement suggests an absoluteness that turns many people away, while an encouraged attitude in the Bible (and in most other belief systems as well) is to invite and accept others, to love other people. I agree with my friend: i beleive she's got it right. Too many people treat truth/beliefs with relativity and insist on doing things that are contradictory, confusing, even hypocritical.
Yeah, anyway
Cathy

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Anonymous

Re: Re:, 04-20-06 3:13pm

I do agree that people often do hypocritical things, but the opinion that there is not a God is quite ignorant. Unless someone has read the entire Bible and sincerely prayed for a sign that it is truth, it is ignorant to not believe in God. Look at your hands, they have 5 fingers, you think that just happened by mistake? Look at nature, the ways things happen, you think it's all just random and not planned? Your entitled to your opinion, but I challenge you to look beyond the boundaries of our human mind. There is a God weather you admit to it or not, and he loves you. I'm not trying to argue or make you feel wrong. Just think about it.

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mudpiegrl

04-25-06 12:07am

i think it's unfair to say it's ignorant to believe what one believes. however, i do believe it's ignorant to say that reading the bible has anything to do with it. first of all, there are so many religions that you cant possibly assume that reading the one particular book is going to determine your opinion. aside from that fact, i have read quite a bit of the bible, both on my own as well as well as in class in my nine years in a catholic school. i'm incredibly interested in religion and the origins and the whereabouts of beliefs.
i also believe that things were not an accident, but it can be attributed to evolution that the things we need we kept, so that's not quite a valid arguement.

your last few sentances bother me. this is why: first of all, you're telling me i'm wrong by saying, "whether you admit it or not", so therefore, the sentance following that statement contridicts itself. you're telling me to believe what you believe. and you also told me to think about it. had i not thought about it, i would not've come to the conclusion that i have. i would not make the post sincerely believing what i had written. besides that, the post was purposely not about whether or not god exists, but rather the fact that even those who agree with me feel it's necessary to conform to the rules of an institution created by humans when nowhere in the bible does it say that we must worship in a place designated for such practise.
the second thing is that you spelled whether wrong. weather is whether or not it's raining...:-|

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mudpiegrl

Re: Re: Re:, 04-25-06 12:13am

by the way...i dont understand why, if you have such pride in your beliefs and feel them so strongly, why you would hide behind an anonymous. im not going to go and kill you for your beliefs. they're perfectly legitimate and i enjoy both political and religious discussions.


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mudpiegrl

Re: Re: Re:, 04-25-06 12:53am

i also just thought of this.

so you believe in god's planning of our lives, which is fine. but if there's any free will at all, in your opinion, then the bible isnt entirely valid. even if you were to say that god just told humans the info to write down, they're a) in the form of stories we can understand, and so not precisely honest truth and b) have human intervention in them. so technically, the bible is no more a reliable source than the united states census. also, in that same realm of thought, strange how similar god having us write his story is to the muses of ancient greece, eh? and that was about the same amount of civilization as the middle east in biblical times.

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Anonymous

Re: Re: Re:, 04-25-06 1:46pm

I can take this discussion into many different discussions, but I have to be somewhere in fifteen minutes, (so maybe I'll come back to this later, I don't know). I'm not going to address personal beliefs. I know yours, I know my friend's, I know mine, and I also know that conversion is a fruitless effort until said person is ready to listen. Off of that topic. When I first replied to you, it was because I thought your comment was a little thoughtless. I meant it when I said you leave no room, that it is too absolute and it turns people away. Ex: “the bible is the truth, and only truth,” “people should have a personal relationship with God, and that is all that matters.” To you, it sounds differently, it sounds strong and faithful, but to me, a Christian, and perhaps to my friend (I don’t know really, I can’t really speak for her), it’s in-your-face and pig-headed. Sorry but I think you are showing ignorance by not showing understanding to my friend’s beliefs, in which understanding and wisdom is a principle treasured in Christianity, as well as other belief systems.
If you want to spread your beliefs in way that is inviting and loving, the way that Jesus did it, then you’re going to have to find a different approach than a two sentence blog on someone’s serious thoughts of personal faith and hypocrisy.

Cathy


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Anonymous

Apology, 04-27-06 2:14am

Thank you Cathy. You are completely right. I owe everyone a sincere apology and I hope we can start over because I do have a few things I would like to share.
I definitely approached what I wanted to say in the wrong way, and it did not come out clearly. I am sorry and I hope you will read my next post.



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